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Posted - 2008.12.29 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sparky12 Stop whining and learn to deal with them I fly one and let me tell you it's fragile and its expensive you can have an inty come out to you and the rest of the fleet can warp to the inty on top of your falcon and that can end very badly or if you are switched on you will live and since the Caldari ships have been hit with the nerf bat the falcon is the only decent effective ship Caldari has left for PVP. Maybe we should nerf all guns as they do damage to other ships that way we can all live in harmony and become Carebears flying around admiring the scenery.
Stop whining ? Are you for real .. cmon you got a ship that is untouchable at 190km+ and can warp of come back and take atleast 2 ships completly out of a fight.
Atleast with RSD's you could atleast get close to someone and manage to get a lock on him. With a falcon you are pretty much toast.
And all other recons ewar has a range under 100km whilst falcons can operate upto 200km+ if u got the proper skills and bonuses.
So yeah script the falcon welcome it down to the rest of us cannon fodder then maybe you can get back on your high horse and ride into the sunset.
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Posted - 2008.12.29 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Colonel Xaven
Originally by: Sidus Isaacs
Originally by: Burning Horizon ECM does need a nerf tbh
"adapt or die"
ECM as a mechanism is fine.
This. Falcons are the only real PvP ships a Caldari skilled char can bring.
Stop crying ffs.
Well according to all you falcon hippies the falcon isnt a pvp ship its a support vessel.
how about you fielding a rokh blaster or rail or maybe torp raven or maybe a nasty drake ?
How about u stop crying and use the ship available to you ?
Not seeing that the falcon is overpowered may it be via ECM or the ship itself dont matter them two together = iWin button if you are the only one fielding em, if not its a jam fest where you are happy to actually target anything or just until everyone tires of not being able to lock **** and warp off.
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Posted - 2008.12.29 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Esmenet Falcons are fine. If anything its other recons that needs a boost to their ewar to get away from this idiotic idea that pvp should be pure tank + spank like so many seem to want.
So who is gonna be fighting when everyone is jamming dampening each other to **** ? whilst the few combat that are suppose to slug it out cant do **** but sit there and sigh ?
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Posted - 2008.12.29 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: barvo Edited by: barvo on 29/12/2008 13:06:38 *sigh*
Let's just whinewhinewhinewhineOMFGWHINE, instead of coming with a reasoned argument. Let me try one for you. I'm going to preface this by stating my position: Falcons are a specialised ship and are excellent at their role, but I agree that they are out of line with their counterparts.
Let's actually look at the Ewar bonuses, and ship's targetting range for my alt, for the force recons.
Falcon - ECM range, ECM strength, 180km Rapier - Target Painter effectiveness, Web Range, 125km Arazu - RSD effectiveness, Scram range, 140km Pilgrim - NOS amount, Tracking disruptor effectiveness, 130km
Now if u start spouting numbers please do so correctly.
Arazu's Effective range aint even near 140km thats including falloff which lowers the effect of the dampner. And a dampner from a arazu at 140km gives me a targeting range decrease of almost nothing.
When with half assed skills i have a optimal of 181km in the falcon and then some falloff on that.
And even if i was dampend at optimal with maxed out pilot with kickass skills and no sensor booster i still atleast have a chance to fight back. And that arazu would be in range for a semi good tackler in a cruiser with mwd .
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Posted - 2008.12.29 15:55:00 -
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Tbh i dont want to be immune i want a fighting chance which atm i dont when a falcon enters the grid.
You know that maybe you will be lucky him missing a jam cycle and get a 20 second atttack windows with todays super tanks isnt gonna even come near to break anyone
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